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一些與M42有關的資料

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發表於 2005-9-20 18:07:46 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
 樓主| 發表於 2005-9-20 18:08:20 | 顯示全部樓層
6. M42鏡頭介紹:
前蘇聯135單反相機鏡頭 (Hot!)
富士龍EBC鏡頭小冊子

7.個別M42鏡頭測試
a) Peleng 8/3.5 Fisheye
Experiences with the Peleng 3.5/8 mm Fisheye (Hot!)
Peleng 8/3.5 Fisheye Samples (共有99張照片)

b) MC Zenitar-M 16mm/2.8
Notes on the MC Zenitar 16mm 2.8 fisheye lens for Canon EOS (Hot!)
Zenitar 16mm/2.8 Fisheye Lens (For Fellow Nikon Users) by Jim Tardio (Hot!)
MC Zenitar-M 16mm/2.8 Samples (共有230張照片)

c) Mir 20/3.5
Mir 3.5/20 mm Ultra Wide Angle
Sample 1 Sample 2

d) Pentacon 29/2.8
Sample 1 Sample 2 Sample 3

e) Pentacon 30mm/f3.5
Sample 1 Sample 2 Sample 3

f) CZJ 35/2.4
夏日午後的一抹綠
CZJ 35/2.4 Electric試鏡 (with 300D)
北港Day 56....晨拍, CZJ 35/2.4
沾滿露珠的草
全身濕透的蜻蜓
以最近對焦距離的蜻蜓

g) Mir-1B 37/2.8
MIR-1B 37/2.8 測試
Sample 1 Sample 2 Sample 3 Sample 4

h) Pentax SMC TAKUMAR 50/1.4
發霉50/1.4 Sample 1, 手持, 機車大燈補光
發霉50/1.4 Sample 2, F11, 1/60
發霉50/1.4 Sample 3
發霉50/1.4 Sample 4

i) CZJ Pancoloar 50/1.8
(Deleted)

j) Pentacon 50/1.8
Sample 1 Sample 2, Agafa Ultra 100 Sample 3, Agafa Ultra 100 Sample 3, Agafa Ultra 100 Sample 4, Agafa Ultra 100 Sample 5, Agafa Ultra 100 Sample 6 Sample 7 Sample 8 Sample 9 Sample 10 Sample 11 Sample 12, istd Sample 13, istd Sample 14, Canon EOS D30

k) CZJ Tessar 50/2.8
Sample 1 Sample 2 Sample 3
這些是用外銷版拍的……鏡頭名稱中的T該是指T-coating吧!
http://sotheby.ddo.jp/istds/archives/2005/09/4_4.html

l) Industar 61 L/Z 50/2.8
Volna 9 vs Industar 61 L/Z

m) Volna-9 50/2.8
VOLNA-9 50/2.8 Macro 近拍測試

n) CZJ Pancolar 80/1.8
全程Pancolar 80/1.8 拍的桌球比賽

o) Jupiter-9 85/2
Jupiter-9 85/2 測試
(deleted)

p) Pentacon 100/2.8
Sample 1  Sample 2  Sample 3  Sample 4  Sample 5  Sample 6  Sample 7

q) CZJ 135/3.5
himarj拍的毒相之一 himarj拍的毒相之二 himarj拍的毒相之三 himarj拍的毒相之四,我就是被這張所毒而愛上M42的 himarj拍的毒相之五,一張毒人無數的片子

r) Jupiter-37A 135/3.5
Jupiter 37A 135/3.5測試

s) Rubinar 500/5.6
Rubinar 500/5.6 (Hot!)

t) Bonus
Russian Mirror lenses
 樓主| 發表於 2005-9-20 18:08:49 | 顯示全部樓層
 樓主| 發表於 2005-9-20 18:10:12 | 顯示全部樓層
對以下各部分的補充:
2. M42老相機介紹:
傻大黑粗的Praktica MTL50

4. M42老相機疑問排解:
關於Praktica MTL50

5. 以非M42口相機作役馬的相關資料:
EOS5配M42鏡頭的測光問題
M42, PK 接環的疑惑
FM2配m42轉接環的問題

7.個別M42鏡頭測試
CZJ Tessar 50/2.8
CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 體驗

Industar-50-2 50/3.5
好吃的俄羅斯煎餅 (光學質素出奇的好!)

Jupiter-9 85/2
Another sample

8. M42鏡頭疑問排解:
m42鏡頭在數位機(istd,istds),夜間.暗處之對焦
水晶鏡頭 ???
 樓主| 發表於 2005-9-20 18:10:45 | 顯示全部樓層
對個別M42鏡頭測試的補充:
CZJ 20/2.8 MC
Sample 1  Sample 2  Sample 3  Sample 4

CZJ 20/2.8
Sample 1 (過期Konica 100)

Pentax SMC Takumar 24/3.5
Sample 1 (*istDS)

CZJ 35/2.4
Sample 1 (E100VS)

CZJ 35/2.4 MC
Sample 1 (Sigma SD10)  Sample 2  Sample 3

Mir-1B 37/2.8
Another image

CZJ Pancolar 50mm f/1.8 MC
Sample 1

CZJ Tessar 50mm f2.8
Test 1 (E100VS)

Pentacon 50mm F1.8 MC
Sample 1 (FUJICOLOR Reala 100) Sample 2 (FUJICOLOR Reala 100)

Xenon 50mm/1.9
Sample 1 Sample 2 Sample 3  Sample 4  Sample 5  Sample 6  Sample 7

Fujonon EBC 55/1.8
Sample 1 (Fujicolor X-tra 400) Sample 2 (Fujicolor X-tra 400)
Sample 2  Sample 3

CZJ Biotar 75/1.5 T
公館地的櫻花 - 負片部份 (超毒!)
Sample 1  Sample 2

Voigtlander Color-Heilar 75/2.5 SL
Sample 1 (*istDS)

CZJ PANCOLAR 80/1.8
Sample 1 (Sigma SD10) Sample 2 (Sigma SD10)  Sample 3 (Kodak TMAX 400)  Sample 4 (Fujichrome Provia 100F, f/5.6, 1/125)

Jupiter-37A 135 /3.5
Gallery
Sample 1  Sample 2 (加延伸環)  Sample 3 (加延伸環)  Sample 4 (加延伸環)  Sample 5  Sample 6  Sample 7 (加延伸環)  Sample 8 (Fujifilm Superia 100)  Sample 9 (Fujifilm Superia 100)  Sample 10 (Fujifilm Superia 100)

CJZ 135/3.5
Sample 1 (*istDS)

CZJ 135/3.5 MC Auto
Sample 1  Sample 2  Sample 3  Sample 4

CZJ MC Sonnar 180/2.8 (P-6 version, SIGMA SD10 )
Sample 1  Sample 2  Sample 3  Sample 4
 樓主| 發表於 2005-9-20 18:11:14 | 顯示全部樓層
【關於幾種縮寫的說明】
Super Takumar——超級大姑媽,單層鍍膜,後期部分已是多層鍍膜。
S-M-C Takumar——Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 超級多層鍍膜大姑媽,全金屬鏡身,做工超好。
SMC Takumar——指的是鏡頭上標注「SMC Takumar」的後期大姑媽,原來的金屬對焦環改為橡膠,成像與S-M-C Takumar不相上下。
 樓主| 發表於 2005-9-20 18:11:35 | 顯示全部樓層
CZJ FLEKTOGON MC 20/2.8——說實話,CZJ的調焦手感和Takumar沒法比。但成像也不錯,顏色清麗,樸實無華的感覺,暗部層次很好。而且光圈做到2.8,確實不易。推薦度★★★★☆

S-M-C Takumar 20/4.5——可遇不可求的好鏡頭。手感沿襲Takumar的一貫作風,順滑舒適。前口徑58mm,必須用轉接環接77mm的濾鏡才無黑角。成像銳利,顏色飽和。全開光圈即有不錯的表現。相同光圈下比CZJ 20/2.8銳,顏色也鮮艷些。缺點:最大光圈太小。前組鏡片過凸,不小心會把鏡頭中心劃傷。推薦度★★★★★

S-M-C Takumar 24/3.5——這個焦距比20頭好控制一些,變形也不嚴重,是我喜歡用的焦距之一。成像與S-M-C Takumar 20/4.5相似。推薦度★★★★★

S-M-C Takumar 28/3.5——試拍片還沒弄出來,不過相信這支頭的素質絕對不差。國外有個網頁上眾多影友比較過所有Pentax的PK口28的鏡頭,作了排名, K系列的28/3.5是排在首位的。 而K系列的28/3.5正是由S-M-C Takumar 28/3.5所演變而來,故相信素質不會低到哪裏去。推薦度★★★★☆

S-M-C Takumar 35/2——極少見,小巧,討人喜歡。由於調焦環比所有廣角,甚至標頭都寬大,所以手感極好。我的這只35/2成像偏黃,銳利程度也比不上35/3.5。推薦度★★★★

CZJ 35/2.4——個人認為它是唯一一支可與S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5一爭高下的M42頭。曾經用同一卷RA、同一個場景、同一曝光係數拍片比較,用放大鏡觀察原片,難分高下。不過,對焦環的手感與Takumar相比根本就不是一個檔次。推薦度★★★★★

S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5——這是我出外必帶的一支頭。輕盈小巧,操作手感順滑,前組超低色散鏡片,小廣角,可做標頭用,全開光圈下的成像就相當銳利。從前面的大眼睛看過去似乎平淡無奇,當從尾部看過去,那多層鍍膜的色彩是絕對會讓你愛上它的。該頭也是個人認為分辨率大大超越太苦瑪標頭的一隻小廣角,色彩飽和油潤,有德頭的味道。我在中甸頌讚林寺上拍的一張照片放大到18寸後,幾公裏外的山頭上飄著的帶子依然清晰可見。記得好像某人說過這樣一句話「用它拍的照片放到1米後,從被攝者的眼睛裏看到了自己!」,這句話用在它身上相信絕對不過份。在Yahoo的Spotmatic或其他的論壇上,該頭的評價幾乎可以說是國際公認的。價格低廉,市場能見度高。我是幾乎看到成色好的都會把它收下來。所以各位M42成員手裏的35/3.5應該好好的使用或是收藏,賣了的話將來會後悔的。這是Fox嚴重推薦的超值好頭之一!推薦度★★★★★

S-M-C Takumar 50/1.4&55/2——這兩支頭可以說是用很低的價錢,用一般的負片也能獲得濃郁飽和、油畫般色彩的廉價頭。由日本的影友用Takumar的所有標頭來拍星空做過比較,得出的結論是:55/2 > 50/1.8 > 50/1.4。Takumar中小光圈鏡頭比大光圈鏡頭稍好似乎是個普遍的現象。後經資料證實,S-M-C Takumar 50/1.8與S-M-C Takumar 50/2其實是同一支鏡頭。推薦度★★★★☆

S-M-C Macro Takumar 50/4——外觀與俄羅斯的微距頭有點相似,鏡片深陷在鏡筒中,想玩微距的朋友千萬不能錯過的選擇之一。無論分辨率或色彩都會讓你大吃一驚的。當然,只有試過之後才能體會其中滋味。推薦度★★★★☆

Voigtlander Color Ultron 50/1.8——新加坡Rollei產,與Rollei HFT Plannar 50/1.8是同一支鏡頭。有Rollei的HFT鍍膜,出片色彩凝重,與Takumar的濃郁飽和又有點不同的味道。想體會HFT鍍膜的魅力與Rollei 35S的出片效果,找它絕對是超值的選擇。市場能見度較高,價格約在800元左右。推薦度★★★★☆

S-M-C Takumar 135/2.5——比較少見。有兩種。前期的5片4組,自動手動撥片下方的號碼是43802。後期改為6片6組,號碼是43812。我的是6片6組的。成像是我所用過的135mm鏡頭中最棒的(包括著名的CARL ZEISS SONNAR T*135/2.8)。推薦度★★★★★

CZJ 135/3.5——手裏這支是從Zieko那購入的,幾乎新品。當時問他該頭表現如何,回了我兩個字「淡雅」。實拍後感覺在全開光圈下成像就已經相當銳利,優於S-M-C Takumar 135/3.5;色彩相當真實,完全的還原當時所見的真實場景。可是在真實的色彩當中確有一種舒服秀氣的感覺,並非完全的「所見即所得」。個人認為應改為「秀雅」,可能會更好些。推薦度★★★★☆

S-M-C Takumar 135/3.5——這是唯一一支在眾多Takumar中稍微令我有點不滿意的鏡頭。當然,這裏的標準是與CZJ MC SONNAR 135/3.5相比較而言的。最大光圈下的成像不太令人滿意,但操作手感的順滑程度及色彩絕對是五星級的。推薦度★★★☆☆

CZJ SONNAR 200/2.8——並不多見的一個鏡頭,口徑77MM。又大又沉,和西菜的180/2.8相比較,無論是機械性能、鏡片鍍膜還是出來的PP,總是還有一定的差距。反轉,色彩有點悶,總是覺得有一層灰,淡淡的。推薦度★★★★☆

S-M-C Takumar 200/4——成像銳利,色彩很漂亮,拍荷花、動物的利器。推薦度★★★★☆

S-M-C Takumar 300/4——只照過一卷,大概感受是不太銳,色彩中性。缺點:最近對焦距離是5.5米,太遠了!推薦度★★★☆☆
 樓主| 發表於 2005-9-20 18:11:58 | 顯示全部樓層
以前dchome members 的討論

有關俄仔的:
戒毒:俄仔反差超低, 只有一支fisheye好d, 不過勝在平。
戒毒:俄仔唔係一般low contrast,而係super low喎!

FTL:I cannot agree to that. My collection of Soviet lens does not exhibit or behave this way. You must know that I only buy good Soviet lens. For any not so decent ones, I send them back to OK to re-calibrate and do CLA if necessary.

IMHO the worst part of Soviet lens is their low quality control, especially from late 60's to late 80's production. Early lens tend to be superlative compare to later ones, and new production during and after 90's tend to be OK if still not so consistent as nominal you would expect from the like of Nikon or Canon.

On the other hand, Soviet lens, due to their design criteria, tend not to favor negative film. Using Slide and B&W film, I have not any problem with contrast or detail definition.
 樓主| 發表於 2005-9-20 18:12:27 | 顯示全部樓層
對俄鏡的評論

himarj:俄仔支 20mm MC MIR-20M 以價錢計都算用得過。

MIR-1 37/2.8:
Slayer:37/2.8 is a good lens, cost $400-450 only if you can find.
FTL:The 37/2.8 can be get so long you are willing to hunt around. Just remember to get a decent hood for it. Typical Russian lens, prone to flair if point into the light.

Industar 50mm f/2.8:
There's 3 industar that can be used on SLR, the I-22 is really an Elmar Clone and exhibit likewise though its Tonality is a bit better while contrast and resolution is lower. The I-50 is improved version for the I-22 and exhibiting a better contrast and fairly better color reproduction. But it still exhibits the typical tonal character. Very sharp lens though. The I-61 and its late offering the I-61L/Z is VERY sharp lens but set in a very interesting deep mount allowing close up to 1:3. Also it is Multi-coated to give much better color reproduction. However I would say its Tonality in Lumi scale suffer a bit. The Graduation and render of subtle color tone change is not comparable with the better Volna-9. But it's indeed a sharper lens though.
AhRay:以$280 o黎講,枝鏡得o架。質素可媲美一般日本Standard lens。
攝影男:支鏡d色好好~靚人一流~雖則易fog
攝影男:點試支鏡?收到光圈,對到焦,揀支冇咁多塵已ok

Jupiter-9 85/2:
FTL:I think most of the 90's production 85/2.0 Jupiter-9 are already multi-coated. Although some commented that the multi-coating on them does not improve much as against their earlier simpler coating. I do notice that these newer production J-9 tend to give higher contrast and better neutral color as against the older ones.
The Jupiter-9 is really a clone of the old Zeiss Sonnar. So expect a fair amount of spherical abbr. at wide open. This stop being a concern by 5.6, and by 8.0 its a sharp lens. This lens exhibiting an interesting character. That is its resolution had a dramatic falloff when moved 2/3 way from center when open to 4.0 which is where the abbr set in also. Which made the defocusing so pleasing for portrait. And the Rounded edge and corner smooth out any blemish making this the best range for portrait. However when used at 8.0 or so, its very sharp and made a very good street shoot / candid record tool. Its really 2 distinct difference performance from one lens.
俄仔 85/2.0 成色不俗。

135/2.8 APO:
slayer:
(Link deleted)
It should be not bad, because I saw some Europe forum and said that not bad. The body quality is very good, seem like the Japanese lens. And it should be 300/4.5 production line.

FTL:Of course the 135/2.8 APO is a good lens according to all those who can get one. The problem is that it's not available. Same case as the Yasmer 300/2.8. Sure they were on the catalog, but it's almost impossible to get one (New).
 樓主| 發表於 2005-9-20 18:12:52 | 顯示全部樓層
DCHOME members對CZJ的觀感

CZJ既quality control麻麻, 而且好多到成尺塵。

CZJ一般而言偏黃, 新淨鏡頭不多。

slayer:You want the new one? Brand new may be not very good price and quality because the last period of the Jena lens's coating should worse than before. According to the Europe web site, the latest period GRD's money falling and lack of money.

戒毒:見人吹到d CZJ出神入化,可惜未見過一張出黎既相有真正歐洲鏡既優點。其實大部份CZJ都係"風塵璞樸"..... 而Russian鏡更加係超低反差,真係得支fisheye玩得過。最好既m42我認為係舊Pentax,同新福倫達,起碼銳度同反差都合理d先呀。

FTL:To be fair, almost all M42 lens are old and especially the good old CZJ and some old Russian Optics. I've been using them and the Pentax Takumars for years. The first and prime most is to find one that is in fair condition. Next one must realize that these old M42 lens are not designed for absolute sharpness at wide Open, nor do they go for critical resolution. These are usually lens designed at a time when B&W reign supreme. So their performance on tonal render and tonal variation is great but consequently their resolution and absolute sharpness are not so high. Contrast as Contrast goes, Negative film is not a good sign to go.

This is why people find it hard to use them. I would suggest slow speed film or better Slide.

Last time I have my CZJ 20/4.0, 20/2.8, 25/4.0 & my modern day Contax Zeiss Distagon 21 & Biogon 21 all shooting at the same scene ( using G2 on a tripod and GA1 adaptor ) The result show that all of them perform superb but behave differently.

IMHO, there is no single best M42 lens brand in the old school. The new Voigtlander are all very good, but suffer the same as most modern lens. That is they trade sharpness & resolution against detail definition and Tonal variance ( both Lumi & chroma ).
 樓主| 發表於 2005-9-20 18:13:18 | 顯示全部樓層
6. M42鏡頭介紹:
What lens to buy? (譯 By fox_moudle) (Hot!)

7.個別M42鏡頭測試:
Pentax 50/4 Macro:
fox_moudle:SMCT 50/4macro銳度相當好,色彩更是沒得說。下面這幾張就是用它拍的。
花的實際大小
近一點
再近一點

Helios 40 85/1.5:
Helios 40 85/1.5

CZJ Sonnar 200/2.8:
GummieBear:買了Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 200mm F2.8個多月,拍的片雖然不多,但對此鏡也有點認識. benniewang 兄說 "反轉,色彩有點悶,總是覺得有一層灰,淡淡的。" 我沒拍過反轉, 所以不能說. 但用它和 CANON 10D 拍的片覺得不錯. 焦外很舒服. 不喜歡的地方是太重,對焦環很苦澀.

Pentax Takumar 200/4:
超級毒相一  超級毒相二

8. M42鏡頭疑問排解:
Russian lenses... are they worth it?

11. ebay以外的買鏡途徑:
樂天農場 (日本)

12. 各M42鏡頭的詳細資料:
Die Cast Pro - Pentax Lenses (超正!仲有說明書下載!)
M42鏡頭資料庫 (FTL兄有份搞,大家都可以send資料上去!)
Pentax screwmount cameras and their world-class Takumar lenses!

13. 俄鏡下的星空:
Zenitar 16/2.8 Fisheye
銀河

100/2.8
The Pointers
Galactic highway
Southern Gems
人馬座
仙後座(局部)
南方星跡
南天極附近

14. 將M42鏡當作望遠鏡用:
缺預算的朋友進來看
我的另類玩具
 樓主| 發表於 2005-9-20 18:13:40 | 顯示全部樓層
CZJ 200/2.8 ge 相見這裏
 樓主| 發表於 2005-9-20 18:22:29 | 顯示全部樓層
 樓主| 發表於 2005-9-20 18:23:11 | 顯示全部樓層

談談P家的SUPER-TAKUAMR

玩super-takumar的時間不長,也很偶然。

去年冬天逛一家本市很出名的俄羅斯器材店,碰到一位資格很老的器材發燒友來打聽super-takumar的鏡頭,當時我也是想玩羅口的老德國鏡頭,所以就挺注意的。但我一直認為42MM羅口歷來是東德蔡絲才是正統,所以沒怎麼瞧得起super-takumar的東西。聽那位發燒友的言語裡,對這super-takumar甚是推崇,感覺特莫名其妙,就順著他的話題頂了一句。他聽了反而語重心長的跟我說:「小朋友啊,評價一個鏡頭你得拍了片子,放大到12寸以上再去指手畫腳,就你這麼輕易猜出的結論,有什麼說服力?」這位叔叔(其實也就40幾歲的前輩)走了以後,跟老闆攀談起來,老闆談起他,大加讚揚,說他是「正經玩過東風120的行家」。

從那次開始,super-takumar就成了我的一塊心病,到處查資料,也沒查到多少,但有一點是明確的:PENTAX當年是靠super-takumar才打下了今天的江湖地位。M42雖然不是PENTAX開發的,卻是PENTAX發揚光大的。

一次偶然的機會,碰上一套帶TESSAR 50/2.8的潘太康,旁邊還擺了個super-takumar 50/1.4,想都沒想馬上拿下。回來用TESSAR和super-takumar拍了一卷黑白,局部放大到相當於12寸,徹底服了super-takumar了。

TESSAR是出了名的銳利的,但碰上super-takumar,沒轍了。同樣光圈5.6,TESSAR的中央銳利度還行,邊緣就完了,但super-takumar的中央和邊緣幾乎看不出差別,而且黑白過渡的特柔和,像水粉畫,反差沒TESSAR大,但細節比TESSAR豐富得多。

從此對super-takumar一發不可收拾,先後進了24/3.5, 50/1.4, 50/1.4(SMC), 55/1.8, 55/1.8(SMC), 55/2, 135/2.5(SMC), 135/3.5, 玩了3個月,說說感想。

1. Super-takumar 24/3.5
這頭比較少見,帶了原配的方形遮光罩,58MM口徑,最近對焦0.25M。我不太擅長用超廣角的,所以這鏡頭也就隨便測試了一下。由於此頭光圈是3.5,所以全開光圈幾乎沒有暗角,變形控制的也不錯,最值得誇的是它的抗眩光。雖然是單層鍍膜,但配上方形遮光罩,簡直天衣無縫。

2. Super-takumar 50/1.4
我喜歡標頭,所以手動頭裡買的標頭比較多。此頭我有2個,銳利,但因為是單層鍍膜,所以有點偏黃,拍黑白和彩色負片不錯,正片沒試過。

3. SUPER-MULTI COATED takumar 50/1.4
此頭是普通Super-takumar 50/1.4的昇級版,單層鍍膜變成了多層鍍膜,有一切老版的優點,而且又改掉了偏黃的毛病,我覺得是Super-takumar 的登峰造極之作。

4. Super-takumar 55/1.8 和 SMC Takumar 55/1.8
這2個頭分別比較大,Super-takumar 55/1.8是老款的金屬對焦環的,SMC就換成膠皮的了, 而且,只寫了SMC Takumar,估計是最後期的產品。雖然Super-takumar的55/1.8也是單層鍍膜的,但就沒有偏黃的毛病。可能這個其實就是SMC的,找了點資料:「Asahi Super-Takumar 或SMC Takumar的85、105、135、和 150mm鏡頭的表現是相同的,並不是按照我們所考慮的連續變化焦距。Asahi 確認了某些晚期製造的Super-Takumars業已採用SMC鍍膜,報告中沒有提到這些鏡頭繼續使用老的鏡桶和包裝盒。85、105、135 和150mm Super-Takumar鏡頭的資料沒有包含在參考表中,目的僅僅是防止讀者只注意資料表格而不關心文字,不知到這個故事反而被愚弄。」跟50/1.4比,銳利度稍差點,但也比TESSAR高。 它們2個對比,SMC的銳度還要高些,但感覺就和50/1.4差點。

5. AUTO-TAKUMAR 55/2
AUTO-TAKUMAR是SUPER Takumar的前身,單層鍍膜(跟SUPER Takumar的單層鍍膜不一樣,差一大截),我的這個好像是仿TESSAR結構的,但總體感覺沒TESSAR的好,不透徹,沒什麼使用價值,我現在是配在一個老機身上放在書架上當裝飾物了。

6. SUPER-MULTI COATED takumar 135/2.5
XI老說過,135MM這個焦段比較容易做。但TAKUMAR的這個絕對不一般。58MM的口徑,全金屬的對焦環,拿在手裡,那感覺,嘖嘖。。。我的這套配的挺不容易的,是皮套-遮光罩-鏡頭蓋一點一點配齊的,所以都沒怎麼捨得用,乖乖的放在架子上瞻仰。簡單的測試了一次,比135/3.5的那個背景虛化的好,因為光圈大了一級嘛。此鏡頭色彩還原的特別好,跟現在PENTAX的風格一樣,比較適合拍彩色片。

7. SUPER-MULTI COATED takumar 135/3.5
比2.5的那個小多了,49MM口徑的。用著沒2.5的那個爽,但好在方便攜帶。
先寫這麼多,因為玩的時間不長,可能還沒玩到精髓。希望大俠給補充點。
發表於 2005-9-21 13:10:59 | 顯示全部樓層
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 樓主| 發表於 2005-9-22 20:31:06 | 顯示全部樓層
Originally posted by micmic at 2005-9-21 01:10 PM:
非常非常詳盡~~~~多謝分享~~~~~+分~~~

多謝!:V:
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嘩嘩嘩.......好多野呀!
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