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一些與M42有關的資料

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 樓主| 發表於 2005-12-5 20:01:03 | 顯示全部樓層
Information on M42 lenses produced bt KMZ. How many of the lenses below have you heard before?

Zodiak- 2M/2M2 3.5/15mm: no info on ths lens.

MC Zenitar-N  2.8/16mm: currently available- excellent value. Cost: about $150.

Mir-20M/MC Mir-20M 3.5/20mm- currently available. Well corrected, and great value at $150 or less!

Mir-10/A/M 3.5/28mm: Heavy, well built. I have not tested mine yet.

Mir-4n 3.5/29mm. No info.

Mir-24M 2.0/35mm: No info.

Mir-46MA 1.4/35mm: No info.

Mir-1, 1A/1B 2.8/37mm  Coated- nice lens- reasonable cost.

Industar-61 L/Z  2.8/50mm Close focusing normal lens. Fine performer.

Jupiter-9/9A 2.0/85mm Generally a good lens. Rather soft for me.

Helios-40/40-2 1.5/85mm: This lens is soft. Fine for portraits.

Vega-13M 2.8/100mm. Rare- no info.

Jupiter-11/11A 4.0/135mm- good performer at reasonable price.

Tair-11 2.8/133mm- reputed to be a fine performer.

Tair-11A 2.8/135mm very well built- good performer at reasonable price.

MC APO-Telezenitar 2.8/135mm- no info.

Jupiter-6/6-2 2.8/180- The J-6-2 is rather soft for my use. Fine for portraits.

Telemar-22/22A  5.6/200mm- Rare- no info.

Jupiter-21/21A/21M 4.0/200mm-  Not the sharpest lens, but a solid performer.

Tair-3- 4.5/300A  - classic telephoto design- good performer if stopped down- good value.

Telezenitar-M 4.5/300- rare- no Info.

Variozenitar-2.8-3.5/25-45mm- reportedly still in production in K mount- expensive, but good.

Variozenitar-M  3.5/40-120- no info.

Granit-11M 4.5/80-200- good performer. Slow max aperture makes it hard to fucus as focus aids black out.

MTO 8/500A- Excellent performer.

MC Rubinar 8/500- superb performance- very flat field- good value.

MC Rubinar 5.6/500- superb performance- very flat field, exceptional  value.

MTO 10/1000. Well built, but field not flat-requires cropping to correct.

MC Rubinar 10/1000- very flat field- fine performer- good value, but difficult to get the best performance out of.
 樓主| 發表於 2005-12-5 20:02:17 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 mrlazyli 於 2005-11-18 07:15 PM 發表
有d唔明……呢d鏡頭結構唔係應該carl zeiss申請左專利ga咩?
點解之後其他d相機廠隨時可以拎o黎用都得ge?(eg 蘇聯o個堆鏡頭、幾十年後日本廠整o既50mm標準鏡)

1. 任何專利權好像只有15年,且要公開部份資料(eg. 鏡頭結構),專利權一過其他人可以利用這些資料,仿止有人玩技術封鎖,令科技停滯不前;

2. 光學工業與國防工業不無關係;發展國防工業就是硬道理,管他侵權不侵權?或按希特拉為引誘蘇聯簽定"蘇德互不侵犯協定"所提出的經貿合約,合法地從納粹德國入口圖紙、光學零件和機器所製造的。

3. 作為戰敗國,德國可說任人魚肉(自作自受!),蘇軍佔領德國不少光學重鎮,帶走不少戰利品:工廠、圖紙、光學零件、機器、工人和設計師,部分德國光學重鎮成了蘇聯領土,之後又陪了不少半製成品,換個名就話係Made in USSR。後來東德又train了不少蘇聯工人,又提供不少技術......
 樓主| 發表於 2005-12-5 20:03:12 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 shide20 於 2005-11-18 12:45 AM 發表
=口=""真係毒鏡......好在我支Industar 61 lens 用呢隻(lanthanum glass)叫做weakly radioactive ...不過都係死ga la..再見啦各位..


"First I measured the background radiation, the ever-present radiation that comes either from radioactive materials around us or from cosmic particles. To measure its intensity I used a Geiger tube and an electronic counter. I found that the background radiation was in the order of eighteen to twenty ionisations per ten seconds. (The number of ionisations in the Geiger tube says something about the number of particles emitted on account of radioactivity. The unit of decay is the becquerel, which is defined as emitted particles per second.)

Then I placed the Geiger tube against the Industar-61L/D's glass surface and started the clock. The value I got was about twenty-five to twenty-eight ionisations per ten seconds. After subtracting the background radiation, that means the Industar-61L/D's radiation alone is responsible for around six to eight ionisations per ten seconds.

What does that mean? Most importantly, that the radiation coming from the Industar and the FED body is much less than the background radiation. That means that anybody who isn't affected by the three times stronger background radiation, won't be affected by that of the FED-5 and its lens. Also, because I measured the ionisations directly against the glass surface of the lens, I got a (much) higher reading than I would have gotten if I had measured on the back of the camera.

Concluding: as you'll sometimes read, the Industar-61L/D is indeed radioactive, but its radiation is already hard to make out against the background radiation, and comes nowhere near the levels you absorb when sunbathing or flying. So for all practical uses, the FED-5 with Industar-61L/D is perfectly safe.

Now there's a surprise..."
 樓主| 發表於 2005-12-5 20:04:04 | 顯示全部樓層
Russian lens formulas and drawings
http://www.baierfoto.de/russobj/objektive.html
 樓主| 發表於 2005-12-5 20:11:22 | 顯示全部樓層
Peleng 8/3.5 Fisheye
1. 基本資料(新增):
http://202.110.52.202/info/hope/showarticle.php?id=221 (中文)
http://m42.povlab.org/lens_detail.php?lid=198 (English)

MC Zenitar-M 16mm/2.8 FISHEYE
1. 基本資料(新增):
http://202.110.52.202/info/hope/showarticle.php?id=222 (中文)

CZJ Flektogon 20/2.8
1.基本資料(新增):
http://www.praktica-users.com/lens/mlenses/czjflek28_20.html (English)
http://m42.povlab.org/lens_detail.php?lid=38 (English)

Zenitar MC Mir-20M 20/3.5
1.基本資料(新增):
http://202.110.52.202/info/hope/showarticle.php?id=223 (中文)
http://m42.povlab.org/lens_detail.php?lid=258 (English)

Pentacon 29/2.8
1. 基本資料(新增):
http://www.praktica-users.com/lens/mlenses/morp2.8_29.html (English)

Pentax Super-Takumar 35/2(新增)
1. 基本資料:
http://whitemetal.com/pentax/st_35_20/index.htm (English)
http://m42.povlab.org/lens_detail.php?lid=9 (English)

2. 測試:
http://www.dc543.net/article-124.html (超毒!)

CZJ 35/2.4
1. 基本資料(新增):
http://www.praktica-users.com/lens/mlenses/czjflek2.4_35.html (English)
http://m42.povlab.org/lens_detail.php?lid=37 (English)

Mir-1B 37/2.8
1. 基本資料(新增):
http://202.110.52.202/info/hope/showarticle.php?id=224 (中文)
http://m42.povlab.org/lens_detail.php?lid=261 (English
 樓主| 發表於 2005-12-5 20:11:38 | 顯示全部樓層
原來真係有人用俄頭充菜頭ga......呢個page仲有教你點樣去分tim......
http://www.taunusreiter.de/Cameras/Zeiss_Fakes.html

俄頭與菜頭同源,認識一些著名菜頭的威水史,玩俄鏡時會更有趣味(雖然俄頭不過係菜頭的仿製品)......
http://www.zeiss.de/C12567A8003B ... D5DC12567A80044EBFA

菜頭名稱的背後......
http://www.zeiss.de/C12567A8003B ... 9DF41256A53003735CE

呢篇就台灣人寫的~~
http://www.leicafanclub.org/institute/whatisdoublegauss.htm
 樓主| 發表於 2005-12-5 20:13:16 | 顯示全部樓層
用MACRO-TAKUMAR拍的照片......(劇毒!)
http://www.dc543.net/viewtopic-42978.html
 樓主| 發表於 2005-12-5 20:14:07 | 顯示全部樓層
o個時vivitar堆series one鏡頭聽人講都唔錯的,而且有幾支變態鏡頭,好似400/4.5非球面折反鏡、35-80/2.8果d睇spec都夠嚇人

http://forum.xitek.com/showthread.php?threadid=113998
 樓主| 發表於 2005-12-5 20:14:25 | 顯示全部樓層
奧林巴克Sonnar 180/2.8頭......very famous......
http://www.hkastroforum.net/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=3899
 樓主| 發表於 2005-12-5 20:16:31 | 顯示全部樓層
 樓主| 發表於 2005-12-5 20:17:53 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 shide20 於 2005-11-23 02:12 AM 發表
=0=""" oh~~~呢到越來越毒啦~~~~~~~日日比佢地咬幾淡....上eaby又咬幾淡......就破產

呢d叫願者上釣......^0^

好多人入到來的反應都是"我乜都睇唔到,我乜都睇唔到......",快快趣咁出去,一個post都無回......

有d人就不甘心:不甘心入寶山而空手而回......但他們都是一個post都無回,因為他們都毒發身亡,有入無出......^0^

而那些堅定不移回post的人,全因他們一邊吸毒,又一面找解藥,甚至是向自已的同袍放毒,方可存活至今,其特徵為荷包衰竭,面有難色......^0^
 樓主| 發表於 2005-12-5 20:20:44 | 顯示全部樓層
 樓主| 發表於 2005-12-5 20:21:05 | 顯示全部樓層
M42兵團成員榮譽信條(改篇自法國外籍兵團成員榮譽信條)

兵團成員都是以榮譽與忠誠,為統一相機接口而戰的志願軍。

兵團成員都是你的同袍,不論其國籍、種族及宗教信仰。你要永遠展現出如一家人般的緊密團結。

遵守傳統,愛護長官。紀律和友誼是力量,勇氣和忠誠是美德。

以身為兵團成員為榮。你的穿著,優美雅致;你的言行,雖謙猶專;你的居所,永保整潔。

作為精英戰士,你必須嚴格地自我鍛鍊。視你的武器如最珍貴的財產。永遠保持你的身體在最佳狀態。

你必須遵守法律、攝影圈子的不成文慣例及版權條列。不論作任何事均以保衛作為攝影師的專嚴為依歸。

行動時不受情緒左右。尊重不同派別的人。不論是已死的同袍,還是受傷的同袍,甚至是個人裝備,你都不離不棄。
 樓主| 發表於 2005-12-5 20:21:37 | 顯示全部樓層
Mir-3 20/3.5 test:
http://www.cojp.com/archives/000166.html

A toxic Japanese site:
http://homepage3.nifty.com/madam/camera

Many photos taken with Russian lenses for Leica body:
http://stonefield.cocolog-nifty.com/higurashi/cat4184466/
 樓主| 發表於 2005-12-5 20:24:14 | 顯示全部樓層
Biotar 75/1.5 T乃神器,曾在數十年前力壓群魔,淨化了當時紛亂不堪的M42"人像鏡"世界,立下典範。可惜歷史成為傳說,而傳說再轉成了神話,而神話最終被遺忘......

即使在網絡海洋中找到的也只有以下殘卷,記載了當年的神魔大戰的零星回憶......
http://m42.povlab.org/lens_detail.php?lid=34

到了現在知道此鏡存在的人,不是被神器所感動而覺悟的人,就是與鏡有緣......

看過此post的人與神器的距離皆縮短不少,距結善緣的日子不遠矣!
 樓主| 發表於 2005-12-13 19:11:47 | 顯示全部樓層
三支M42鏡頭介紹
http://www.dc543.net/article-125.html

談談TAKUMAR
http://www.dc543.net/article-17.html

Super Takumar 35/2
http://www.dc543.net/article-124.html

Carl Zeiss Jena 28-70/3.5-4.5 (Canon EF mount!)
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/spring23&article_id=3536578

Carl Zeiss Jena MC PANCOLAR 50/1.8
http://www.dc543.net/article-131.html

Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 (electric verson?)
http://www.dc543.net/article-14.html

Pentacon 50/1.8 MC and Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 (electric verson)
http://www.dc543.net/article-48.html

Helios-44M 58/2 (verson is unknown)
http://www.dc543.net/article-132.html

Yashinon DX 50/1.4
http://www.dc543.net/article-5.html
發表於 2005-12-14 12:38:57 | 顯示全部樓層
愈睇愈鍾意大姑媽~~~
 樓主| 發表於 2006-5-31 23:28:43 | 顯示全部樓層
Canon EOS to M42 合焦指示轉接環製作結果發表:
http://www.dc543.net/viewtopic-44240.html
發表於 2006-6-1 09:57:01 | 顯示全部樓層

M42 羅口 Yashica 標頭拆解及清洗光圈組件的油漬

發表於 2007-4-24 18:31:58 | 顯示全部樓層
資料好詳盡!
我都有支pentagon 50mm f1.8, 覺得真係物超所值.
好正
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